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		<title>Comment on The illusion of debt by GALES OF NOVEMBER (2009) &#171; Grace County</title>
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		<title>Comment on The illusion of debt by flee the wrath</title>
		<link>http://fleethewrath.wordpress.com/2009/09/02/the-illusion-of-debt/#comment-567</link>
		<dc:creator>flee the wrath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 09:52:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Timbob,
Haven&#039;t been on the blogging journey for a little while, kinda busy with other things for now so appreciate your comments.
I just keep having a thought on this issue of the failing US/world economy, that it has been a long time in the making, seemingly slow in coming and in a sense, in this we have been granted a degree of grace to get our affairs in order. 
I&#039;ve been following the coming financial apocalypse for some 15 years. It seems obvious to me and many others now that this financial undoing has been progressing for many, many years, and as a result of prolonging the thing we fear most, we have made it all the worse. 
However, we do serve an exceedingly graceful God and even in the midst of crisis His grace will abound unto salvation, for many.
Bless you,
Tim.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Timbob,<br />
Haven&#8217;t been on the blogging journey for a little while, kinda busy with other things for now so appreciate your comments.<br />
I just keep having a thought on this issue of the failing US/world economy, that it has been a long time in the making, seemingly slow in coming and in a sense, in this we have been granted a degree of grace to get our affairs in order.<br />
I&#8217;ve been following the coming financial apocalypse for some 15 years. It seems obvious to me and many others now that this financial undoing has been progressing for many, many years, and as a result of prolonging the thing we fear most, we have made it all the worse.<br />
However, we do serve an exceedingly graceful God and even in the midst of crisis His grace will abound unto salvation, for many.<br />
Bless you,<br />
Tim.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The illusion of debt by timbob</title>
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		<dc:creator>timbob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 07:28:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi brother. I&#039;m planning to link to this post in a few days. Some folks seem to understand what&#039;s about to transpire in this land, but many seem to have no clue. The media outlets continuously talk about the current &quot;recovery&quot; so called and I hear people refer to the employment situation in terms of &quot;when it gets better.&quot; The illusion of continuance; the belief that this is just a cyclical downturn like all of the past cyclical downturns, is deeply embedded in the minds of many. 

I truly believe that this nation is headed for a collapse. It has to. One cannot even wrap their mind around the amount of debt that permeates this country. The federal government is in debt to the tune of 13 trillion dollars. The state governments are broke, local municipalities are broke, and individual citizens are broke. If I remember correctly, the average American household has $15,000 of credit card debt and I know of folks who have much more. 

Couple this with falling wages and the continual offshoring of jobs; both of which have a negative impact on economic activity and tax revenues thereby complicating the problem even further. And while we&#039;re at it, throw in two wars that seem to have no end in sight and an administration that seems to have no problem with &quot;creating money out of thin air&quot; by continuously printing up more.

And I haven&#039;t even touched on the spiritual condition of the land which is the primnary reason that the current economic conditions have developed. II Timothy chapter 3 is coming to pass before our eyes. These events; traumatic as they may be, shouldn&#039;t cause panic on the part of the saints. In my case, such ponderings cause a renewed desire to draw close to the Lord Jesus and be about the issues that have eternal significance. It&#039;s why I&#039;ve been compelled to get into the streets at every opportunity to share the gospel while there&#039;s still time. 

Last fall, while in Kalamazoo for this purpose, it was dropped in my spirit: &quot;everything here is going to pass away. Only the souls will remain forever.&quot; It seems such a basic truth, (I mean, who can argue with it) and yet it&#039;s so profound. A thousad years from now, Kalamazoo will be but a memory, however, everyone who does, or ever has, lived in Kalamazoo will be in their eternal abode. 

Thanks for the post. Sorry for such a wandering comment. A lot of ponderings have been benerated by this. 

Blessings always in Jesus name.

timbob</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi brother. I&#8217;m planning to link to this post in a few days. Some folks seem to understand what&#8217;s about to transpire in this land, but many seem to have no clue. The media outlets continuously talk about the current &#8220;recovery&#8221; so called and I hear people refer to the employment situation in terms of &#8220;when it gets better.&#8221; The illusion of continuance; the belief that this is just a cyclical downturn like all of the past cyclical downturns, is deeply embedded in the minds of many. </p>
<p>I truly believe that this nation is headed for a collapse. It has to. One cannot even wrap their mind around the amount of debt that permeates this country. The federal government is in debt to the tune of 13 trillion dollars. The state governments are broke, local municipalities are broke, and individual citizens are broke. If I remember correctly, the average American household has $15,000 of credit card debt and I know of folks who have much more. </p>
<p>Couple this with falling wages and the continual offshoring of jobs; both of which have a negative impact on economic activity and tax revenues thereby complicating the problem even further. And while we&#8217;re at it, throw in two wars that seem to have no end in sight and an administration that seems to have no problem with &#8220;creating money out of thin air&#8221; by continuously printing up more.</p>
<p>And I haven&#8217;t even touched on the spiritual condition of the land which is the primnary reason that the current economic conditions have developed. II Timothy chapter 3 is coming to pass before our eyes. These events; traumatic as they may be, shouldn&#8217;t cause panic on the part of the saints. In my case, such ponderings cause a renewed desire to draw close to the Lord Jesus and be about the issues that have eternal significance. It&#8217;s why I&#8217;ve been compelled to get into the streets at every opportunity to share the gospel while there&#8217;s still time. </p>
<p>Last fall, while in Kalamazoo for this purpose, it was dropped in my spirit: &#8220;everything here is going to pass away. Only the souls will remain forever.&#8221; It seems such a basic truth, (I mean, who can argue with it) and yet it&#8217;s so profound. A thousad years from now, Kalamazoo will be but a memory, however, everyone who does, or ever has, lived in Kalamazoo will be in their eternal abode. </p>
<p>Thanks for the post. Sorry for such a wandering comment. A lot of ponderings have been benerated by this. </p>
<p>Blessings always in Jesus name.</p>
<p>timbob</p>
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		<title>Comment on Twenty Three (23) Judgement by burt23</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 02:21:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>23 23 23 23 23 23 23 23 23 23 23 23 23 23 23 23 23 23 23 23 23 23 23..hey anyone.....i just wanted to know more about this 23 thing. I see it so much its freaky..  My alarm clock will even set off at 10.23  11.23  8.23  7.23  05.23  when i never even set it..I have seen the 23 soooo mucch in the past year ... does anyone no whats up with this???  Is anyone else geting this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>23 23 23 23 23 23 23 23 23 23 23 23 23 23 23 23 23 23 23 23 23 23 23..hey anyone&#8230;..i just wanted to know more about this 23 thing. I see it so much its freaky..  My alarm clock will even set off at 10.23  11.23  8.23  7.23  05.23  when i never even set it..I have seen the 23 soooo mucch in the past year &#8230; does anyone no whats up with this???  Is anyone else geting this?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Financial Meltdown &#8211; New World Order &#8211; Mark of the beast by joe</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 17:01:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In ireland to day the lisbon treaty was passed..They used the economy concerns, to put fear in peoples hearts.Now the Irish have lost 1 of the best fishing waters in the world, and they pay farmers to do nothing.Its not hard to close there shipping ports,if the people give trouble,or want out of the eu.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In ireland to day the lisbon treaty was passed..They used the economy concerns, to put fear in peoples hearts.Now the Irish have lost 1 of the best fishing waters in the world, and they pay farmers to do nothing.Its not hard to close there shipping ports,if the people give trouble,or want out of the eu.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The illusion of debt by annaldavis</title>
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		<dc:creator>annaldavis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 14:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love how you said that the &quot;judgement of God is always redemptive for those whom He has called.&quot; Just in my own personal life I am grateful for His discipline, to keep me on the path toward Christ.

I didn&#039;t mean to accuse you of being anti-American. I think there&#039;s a great deal of confusion over what it means to be American now. For those of us who do believe in the power of a free nation (and to some extent, capitalism), our slide into economic failure and possible socialism is a disturbing one. I agree with you completely that the spirit of Babylon is prevalent, and I just hope that God can remove this spirit from us without breaking our nation&#039;s vision. But in a way I&#039;m already mourning this great nation because I don&#039;t know if our people will allow it.

I think that if any one of the superpowers fall, the whole world will also be greatly shaken. As you have said, everything is about being global now. 

I appreciate your blog a lot, and your willingness to speak the truth when many want to ignore it.

Anna</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love how you said that the &#8220;judgement of God is always redemptive for those whom He has called.&#8221; Just in my own personal life I am grateful for His discipline, to keep me on the path toward Christ.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t mean to accuse you of being anti-American. I think there&#8217;s a great deal of confusion over what it means to be American now. For those of us who do believe in the power of a free nation (and to some extent, capitalism), our slide into economic failure and possible socialism is a disturbing one. I agree with you completely that the spirit of Babylon is prevalent, and I just hope that God can remove this spirit from us without breaking our nation&#8217;s vision. But in a way I&#8217;m already mourning this great nation because I don&#8217;t know if our people will allow it.</p>
<p>I think that if any one of the superpowers fall, the whole world will also be greatly shaken. As you have said, everything is about being global now. </p>
<p>I appreciate your blog a lot, and your willingness to speak the truth when many want to ignore it.</p>
<p>Anna</p>
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		<title>Comment on The illusion of debt by flee the wrath</title>
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		<dc:creator>flee the wrath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 23:22:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Anna,
I believe that the point you make is precisely why we are heading down this path, a refiners fire......The judgement of God is always redemptive for those whom He has called, and again what father does not chasten the son who is loved?
I think of that scripture, it is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.
In looking forward to the humbling of the mighty and the proud nation it is not that we delight to see the strong fall, but that in this coming time, Gods people will return to the simplicity of Christ, to their first love, to worship Him in truth, rather than bowing before the idols of Babylon and drawing nigh with their lips.
Anna, Australia is no different to America really, we are just a little brother to you guys. When the US falls, so will we, maybe it will take a little longer but you can be sure that God will allow this judgement to come upon His peoples as a refining fire, that we might &quot;come out of her&quot; before the day of the Lord.
In reading this blog I realise that one could be forgiven for presuming that I was anti American, this is not the case....If I am anti anything, it is Anti the Spirit of Babylon, the Spirit of this age, which prevails over our nations at this time.
Bless you Anna and thanks, indeed I do pray just as you do also.
Tim</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Anna,<br />
I believe that the point you make is precisely why we are heading down this path, a refiners fire&#8230;&#8230;The judgement of God is always redemptive for those whom He has called, and again what father does not chasten the son who is loved?<br />
I think of that scripture, it is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.<br />
In looking forward to the humbling of the mighty and the proud nation it is not that we delight to see the strong fall, but that in this coming time, Gods people will return to the simplicity of Christ, to their first love, to worship Him in truth, rather than bowing before the idols of Babylon and drawing nigh with their lips.<br />
Anna, Australia is no different to America really, we are just a little brother to you guys. When the US falls, so will we, maybe it will take a little longer but you can be sure that God will allow this judgement to come upon His peoples as a refining fire, that we might &#8220;come out of her&#8221; before the day of the Lord.<br />
In reading this blog I realise that one could be forgiven for presuming that I was anti American, this is not the case&#8230;.If I am anti anything, it is Anti the Spirit of Babylon, the Spirit of this age, which prevails over our nations at this time.<br />
Bless you Anna and thanks, indeed I do pray just as you do also.<br />
Tim</p>
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		<title>Comment on The illusion of debt by annaldavis</title>
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		<dc:creator>annaldavis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 17:34:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Tim,
Have you seen the most recent news, that the U.S. Federal Bank is considering loans from the more stable banks, just months after loaning billions in bail out money to the banks? What a mess.

I know that the United States isn&#039;t my true home, that it&#039;s just a place and can fall at any minute (and likely will, if this continues). But American pride doesn&#039;t break easily. I still get teary-eyed when I hear the national anthem, and am proud of my parents and grandparents who fought for our freedoms. I continue to pray that God will use this time as a refining fire for our misguided country, rather than a destroying one. I hope you will pray for that, too.

Anna</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Tim,<br />
Have you seen the most recent news, that the U.S. Federal Bank is considering loans from the more stable banks, just months after loaning billions in bail out money to the banks? What a mess.</p>
<p>I know that the United States isn&#8217;t my true home, that it&#8217;s just a place and can fall at any minute (and likely will, if this continues). But American pride doesn&#8217;t break easily. I still get teary-eyed when I hear the national anthem, and am proud of my parents and grandparents who fought for our freedoms. I continue to pray that God will use this time as a refining fire for our misguided country, rather than a destroying one. I hope you will pray for that, too.</p>
<p>Anna</p>
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		<title>Comment on The illusion of debt by flee the wrath</title>
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		<dc:creator>flee the wrath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 09:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi PK,
Indeed, the good will suffer with the bad. Not alot we can do about that.
On the bright side our &quot;treasure in heaven&quot; won&#039;t suffer loss in this coming financial apocalypse.
Cheers,
Tim</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi PK,<br />
Indeed, the good will suffer with the bad. Not alot we can do about that.<br />
On the bright side our &#8220;treasure in heaven&#8221; won&#8217;t suffer loss in this coming financial apocalypse.<br />
Cheers,<br />
Tim</p>
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		<title>Comment on The illusion of debt by ProdigalKnot</title>
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		<dc:creator>ProdigalKnot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 03:50:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, I can&#039;t help but think of America everytime I read Revelation 18. I mean, this insolvency which is essentially the Sword of Damocles over America&#039;s well being, is evetually going to drop.

What you present here is very true. Almost all companies in America are only as good as the day they open their doors for business. They are almost all, without exception, in debt beyond any ability to pay should the note come due. Those rare companies that are solvent will suffer due to a collapsed market for their goods. 

The economy is a false idol which many Christians worship and put faith in despite knowing better because their real God is their pocketbook and property. The basket is rotten and the bottom will fall out. The good will suffer with the bad, unfortunately. The judgment, however, is just and long in coming. &quot;And the merchants of the earth weep and mourn for her, since no one buys their cargo anymore....&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, I can&#8217;t help but think of America everytime I read Revelation 18. I mean, this insolvency which is essentially the Sword of Damocles over America&#8217;s well being, is evetually going to drop.</p>
<p>What you present here is very true. Almost all companies in America are only as good as the day they open their doors for business. They are almost all, without exception, in debt beyond any ability to pay should the note come due. Those rare companies that are solvent will suffer due to a collapsed market for their goods. </p>
<p>The economy is a false idol which many Christians worship and put faith in despite knowing better because their real God is their pocketbook and property. The basket is rotten and the bottom will fall out. The good will suffer with the bad, unfortunately. The judgment, however, is just and long in coming. &#8220;And the merchants of the earth weep and mourn for her, since no one buys their cargo anymore&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
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